Owain "Brogyntyn" ap Madog, arglwydd of Dinmael and Edeirnion

Abt 1130 - Aft 1215  (86 years)

• Name	Owain "Brogyntyn" ap Madog   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
  Suffix	arglwydd of Dinmael and Edeirnion
  Nickname	Brogyntyn
  Born	Abt 1130	of, Porkington, Selatyn, Shropshire, England
  Christened	{Tribe: Bleddyn ap Cynfyn}
  Gender	Male
  Died	Aft 1215
  Person ID	I100002711	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	4 Aug 2006

  
  

  Family	Jonet ferch Hywel,   b. Abt 1130, of, Maelienydd cantref, Radnorshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Married	Yes, date unknown
  	CONFLICT/ERROR: Descendants> 'Lloyd, Powys Fadog' volume 1 page 126 and volume 6 page 56 state there was no issue from this marriage.
  Children	1. Efa ferch Owain "Brogyntyn",   b. Abt 1170, of, Porkington, Selatyn, Shropshire, England ,   d. Yes, date unknown   2. Bleddyn ab Owain "Brogyntyn", arglwydd of Dinmael and Rûg,   b. Abt 1170, of, Maesmor, Llangwm, Denbighshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1218  (Age 49 years)   3. Iorwerth ab Owain "Brogyntyn", arglwydd of Cymer and Llangar,   b. Abt 1170, of, Cymer, Llangar, Merionethshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   4. Gruffudd ab Owain "Brogyntyn", arglwydd of Yr Hendwr,   b. Abt 1170, of, Yr Hendwr, Llandrillo-yn-Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1245  (Age 76 years)   5. Madog ab Owain "Brogyntyn",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Montgomeryshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   6. Llywelyn ab Owain "Brogyntyn",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Montgomeryshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	21 Feb 2006
  Family ID	F100002170	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  (Research):KINSHIP: Investigate> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 1 page 125 and 126 show two other sons, Cadwgan and Hywel of Edeyrnion, who witness a deed to monks in 1215. KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Griffith's 'Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families' page 392 makes him the son of Efa ferch Eurien. KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 6 page F15 makes him the son of Susanna ferch Gruffudd. MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 pages 109 and 122 gives him a second wife and assigns the children to her. This wife was Margred ferch Einion ap Seisyll. According to Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' this Margred was married to Thomas ap Rhodri and living in the early 1200s. The marriage as found in Dwnn is probably erroneous. MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Griffith's 'Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families' page 244 gives him a second wife and assigns the children to her. This wife was Margred ferch Einion ap Seisyll. According to Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' this Margred was married to Thomas ap Rhodri and living in the early 1200s. The marriage as found in Griffith is probably erroneous. MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 1 page 126 and volume 6 page 56 give him a second wife and assigns the children to her. This wife was Margred ferch Einion ap Seisyll. According to Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' this Margred was married to Thomas ap Rhodri and living in the early 1200s. The marriage as found in Lloyd is probably erroneous. KINSHIP: Illegitimate son. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 109) DISTINCTION: Esquire. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 124) LIVING: Flourished 1160-1188. LIVING: 1215, he, together with his sons Cadwgon and Hywel, were witnesses to a deed from Owain "de Brithdir, confirming to the monks of Strata Florida (Ystrad Fflur) all their lands in Arwystili. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 1 p. 125, 126) RESIDENCE: He is said to have resided at Porkington in Welsh Brogyntyn, Shropshire. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 109 fn. 1) RESIDENCE: He resided at Brogyntyn near Oswestry. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 1 p. 125) PROPERTY: Lord of Dinmael and Edeirnion. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 4 p. 341) PROPERTY: He was given the commote of Dinmael by his father Maredudd. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 6 p. 56) PROPERTY: He appears to have succeeded his half brother Elise to Edeirnion in a deposition in 1202. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 6 p. 56) PROPERTY: He gave to the monks of Basingwerk Abbey the ville or township of Wenhewm, also of "certain water in Penthlin called Thlintegid and all the pasture of the said land of Penthlin". The was witnessed by Reyner, who was Bishop of St. Asaph (Llanelwy) from 1186 to 1224 and by Ithel Owain's chaplain. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 6 p. 134) REMARKS: Founder of the minor dynasty of Edeyrnion. REMARKS: He allied himself with Owain "Gwynedd" and Rhys ap Tewdwr to resist the attempts of Henry II upon the independence of Wales and obtained a victory over the English in 1165 at the battle of Crogen near Chirk Castle. REMARKS: In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master.

  
  

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