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Madog ap Rhirid "Flaidd"

Male Abt 1200 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Madog ap Rhirid "Flaidd"   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Nickname Flaidd 
    Born Abt 1200  of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened {Tribe: Rhirid Flaidd} Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I100003465  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 9 Apr 2009 

    Father Rhirid "Flaidd" ap Gwrgeneu, arglywdd of Penllyn, Efionydd, and PennantMelangel,   b. Abt 1170, of, Neuaddau, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1207  (Age 37 years) 
    Mother Gwenllian ferch Ednyfed,   b. Abt 1170, of, Broughton, Wrecsam, Denbighshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F100002853  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Efa ferch Philip "Ddû",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Montgomeryshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
     1. Nest ferch Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Gwenllian [1st] ferch Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Gwenllian [2nd] ferch Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Gwrgeneu ap Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. Rhirid "Fychan" ap Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1282  (Age 53 years)
     6. Rhys ap Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Gwyn ap Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhiwaedog, Llanfor, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     8. Iorwerth ap Madog,   b. Abt 1230, of, Penllyn cantref, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1305  (Age 74 years)
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2002 
    Family ID F100002852  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • (Research):
    • DISTINCTION: Esquire. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 95)

      LIVING: 1121.
      RESIDENCE: Rhiwaedog. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 4 p. 117)
      PROPERTY: Lord of Penllyn.

      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 2 page 327 adds two extra generations between Madog and Rhirid, Iorwerth ap Madog ap Rhirid.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 1 page 243 and volume 2 page 244 omit this generation from the name string.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Griffith's 'Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families' page 244 calls him Madog ap Iorwerth ap Madog ap Ieuan "Llwyd".
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 4 page 117 gives him three children not shown in other sources: 1) Iorwerth "Fychan", 2) Gwenllian who married Llywelyn ab Ithel of Aelhairn in Glyndyfrdwy and Derwen Anial, ap Heilin ap Einudd, Lord of Dyffyrn Clwyd, and 3) Mawd who married Gronwy ap Tudur ap Gronwy ap Ednyfed "Fychan".
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Griffith's 'Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families' page 285 gives him additional sons, Ieuan and Gruffudd.
      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Lloyd's 'History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog' volume 4 page 294 and volume 6 page 98 give him two wives, Efa ferch Philip "Ddû" ap Hywel ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn and Arddun ferch Philip ab Uchdryd of Cyfeiliog. There is only one wife with the former pedigree being correct.

  • Sources 
    1. [S100000652] #1843 The Visitation of Shropshire, Taken in the Year 1623 (1889), Treswell, Robert (main author), (Publications of the Harleian Society: Visitations, volumes 28, 29. London: [Harleian Society], 1889), FHL book 942 B4h volumes 28-29; FHL microfilm 162,., vol. 29 p. 385, 389.

    2. [S100000712] #1039 Pedigrees of Anglesey and Carnarvonshire Families: with Their Collateral Branches in Denbighshire, Merionethshire (1914), Griffith, John Edwards, (Horncastle, England: W.K. Morton, 1914), FHL book Folio 942.9 D2gr; FHL microfilm 468,334., p. 5, 35, 44, 52, 62, 204, 223, 235, 244, 253, 280*, 285*, 394.

    3. [S100001800] #771 The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fodog and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen and Meirionydd (1881-1887), Lloyd, Jacob Youde William, (6 volumes. London: T. Richards, 1881-1887), FHL book 942.9 D2L; FHL microfilms 990,213-990,214., vol. 1 p. 196; vol. 3 p. 41, 106, 327; vol. 4 p. 46, 47*, 101, 117*, 294*, 359, 364; vol. 6 p. 48, 56, 66*, 67*, 98*, 119*, 129.

    4. [S100002411] #11915 British Genealogy (filmed 1950), Evans, Alcwyn Caryni, (Books A to H. National Library of Wales MSS 12359-12360D. Manuscript filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950), FHL microfilms 104,355 and 104,390 item 2., book 1 p. 2, 165, 166; book 5 p. E65*; book 6 p. F126*.

    5. [S100002416] #12627 Genealogy of Shropshire [by Joseph Morris] (filmed 1966), Morris, Joseph, (10 volumes. Manuscript filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1966), vol. 1-2 FHL microfilm 504,551; vol.3-4 FHL microf., vol. 2 p. 582; vol. 3 p. 1130*, 1231*.

    6. [S100002434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 213, 322; vol. 2 p. 88, 95*, 229, 230*, 247, 249*, 278, 285.

    7. [S100002437] #4568 Welsh Genealogies, AD 300-1400 (1980), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (25 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. [Wales]: University of Wales Press, 1980), FHL book 942.9 D2bp; FHL microfiche 6025561., vol. 2 p. 47, 70, 74; vol. 7 p. 488; vol. 9 p. 696; vol. 10 p. 747, 749, 750.

    8. [S100002674] #2813 Pedigree of the family of Myddelton of Gwaynynog, Garthgynan, and Llansannan, all in the county of Denbigh . . . (1910, reprint 1965), Myddelton, W. M., (Horncastle, England: [s.n], 1910), FHL microfilm 441,498 item 2., p. 29.