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Philip ab Elidir "Ddû"

Male Abt 1300 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Philip ab Elidir "Ddû"   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    Nickname Ddû 
    Born Abt 1300  of, Y Crûg, Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened {Tribe: Einion ap Llywarch} Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I200006778  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 13 Feb 2012 

    Father Elidir "Ddû" ab Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Y Crûg, Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1326  (Age 57 years) 
    Mother Elsbeth ferch Seisyll,   b. Abt 1250, of, Cantref Selyf, Breconshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F200004017  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Gwladus ferch Dafydd "Fras",   b. Abt 1300, of, Cedweli commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Last Modified 31 Jul 2005 
    Family ID F200005060  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • DISTINCTION: Esquire. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 57)

      RESIDENCE: Crug. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies - Additions and Corrections 300-1400, 6th List, p. 13)

      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Thomas' 'Golden Grove MS' book 2 page A139 gives him a daughter named Arddun who married Llywelyn ap Gruffudd ap Maredudd "Gam", but his Llywelyn was born about 1230.
    • (Research):KINSHIP: Investigate> Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' volume 5 page 329 does not state to which wife he belongs. Placed with 1st wife until further research proves otherwise.
      KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 8 page H65 gives him additional sons: Gwilym "Fychan" and a Gruffudd, but Gruffudd son of Nicolas, thus a grandson.

  • Sources 
    1. [S200000121] Peerage (Collins, Brydges), Brydges, Sir Egerton, 1762-1837, (9 vols. London: [T. Bensley], 1812), FHL 942 D22bc., vol. 7 p. 504, 509.

    2. [S200000138] MS. 6614E - Davies of Cringell (MFU #11617), (National Library of Wales manuscript number 6614E. Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950.), FHL microfilm 104381 item 8., no page numbers.

    3. [S200000327] WG 300-1400 - 6th List, Bartrum, Peter C., (Aberystwyth. Llyfregell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales. 1999.), FHL 942.9 Dwbp supp. 6., p. 13.

    4. [S200000754] #205 Baronagium Genealogicum, Or, the Pedigrees of the English Peers, Deduced from the Earliest Times, of Which There Are Any Attested Accountes Including, as Well Collateral as Lineal Descents (1764-1784), Segar, Sir William, (6 volumes. [London]: Engraved and printed for the author, [1764-1784].), Volumes 1-4 FHL microfilm 164,680; volume 5 FHL mi., vol. 6 p. 82.

    5. [S200001257] #248 A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland Enjoying Territorial Possessions or High Official Rank; but Uninvested with Heritable Honors (1834-1838), Burke, John, (4 volumes. London: Published for Henry Colburn, by R. Bentley, 1834-1838), FHL book 942 D2bc., vol. 4 p. 59.

    6. [S200004923] Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi, Rowland, John, (Microreproduction of original published: Carermarthen : William Spurrell, 1877. vi. 23 p. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1982), FHL BRITISH Fiche [6024300]., p. 9.

    7. [S200005033] #235 The History and Antiquities of the County of Buckingham (1847), Lipscomb, George, (Four volumes. London: J. & W. Robins, 1847), FHL book Q 942.575 H2Li; FHL microfilms 990,261-99., vol. 1 p. 71.