Elidir ap Rhys

Abt 1230 - Yes, date unknown

• Name	Elidir ap Rhys   [1, 2, 3, 4]
  Born	Abt 1230	of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales
  Christened	{Tribe: Einion ap Llywarch}
  Gender	Male
  Died	Yes, date unknown
  Person ID	I200008083	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	13 Feb 2012

  
  

  Father	Rhys [1st] ap Gronwy, arglwydd of Is Cennen,   b. Abt 1200, of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Mother	Gwladus ferch Cadwgon,   b. Abt 1230, of, Menai commote, Anglesey, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Family ID	F200006806	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Gwladus ferch Philip,   b. Abt 1230, of, Morgannwg gwlad, Glamorganshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Children	1. Cunedda ab Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   2. Lleucu ferch Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   3. Gruffudd ab Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Myddynfych, Llandybïe, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   4. Elidir "Ddû" ab Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Y Crûg, Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1326  (Age 57 years)   5. Catrin ferch Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   6. Sara ferch Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Is Cennen commote, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	18 Jul 2005
  Family ID	F200004018	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  DISTINCTION: Esquire. RESIDENCE: Eskennen. RESIDENCE: Yskennen. (Thomas, Golden Grove MS, book 2 p. A138) PROPERTY: Lord of Iscennen. (Rowland, Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi, p. 10) (Research):KINSHIP: Investigate> Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' volume 5 page 327 states he is either the son of 1) Gwladus ferch Cadwgon, or 2) Nest ferch Dafydd. KINSHIP: Investigate> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 48 makes him the son of Nest ferch Dafydd. IDENTITY: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 1 pages 38 and 87 erroneously call him Sir Elidir "Ddû", Knight. KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 page 140 calls him Elidir ap Llywarch ap Rhirid ap Môr ap Pasgen. IDENTITY: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 page 76 erroneously calls him Sir Elidir "Ddû".

  
  

• Sources

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