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Catrin ferch Elidir "Ddû"

Female Abt 1300 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Catrin ferch Elidir "Ddû"   [1, 2, 3, 4
    Nickname Ddû 
    Born Abt 1300  of, Y Crûg, Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened {Tribe: Einion ap Llywarch} Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I200009678  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 22 Jun 2009 

    Father Elidir "Ddû" ab Elidir,   b. Abt 1270, of, Y Crûg, Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1326  (Age 57 years) 
    Mother Elsbeth ferch Seisyll,   b. Abt 1250, of, Cantref Selyf, Breconshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F200004017  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ieuan ap Madog, arglwydd of Cil-sant,   b. Abt 1270, of, Cil-sant, Llanwinio, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
     1. Margred ferch Ieuan,   b. Abt 1300, of, Cil-sant, Llanwinio, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Madog ab Ieuan, arglwydd of Cil-sant,   b. Abt 1300, of, Cil-sant, Llanwinio, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 27 Aug 2002 
    Family ID F200008035  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • (Research) KINSHIP: Investigate> Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' volume 5 page 329 does not state to which wife she belongs. Placed with 1st wife until further research proves otherwise.

      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> 'Baronagium Genealogicum' volume 6 page 82 shows her married to Dafydd Moethe, Lord of Castle Odwyn.
      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> 'Commoners' volume 4 page 59 shows her married to Rhys ap Rhydderch.
      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> 'Buckinghamshire County History' volume 1 page 71 shows her married to Rhys ap Rhydderch.
      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 page 6 gives her two husbands the first being Dafydd ap Gruffudd "Foel" and the second Rhys ap Rhydderch ap Cydifor ap Dinwal.
      (Research) MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Buckley's 'Genealogies of the Carmarthenshire Sheriffs from 1539-1913' page 3 states she married "Dd. ap Griff. Voel, Lord of Castle Edwyn".

      CONCLUSION: The above marriages to a Dafydd ap Gruffudd "Foel" are Catrin's aunt's, Lleucu ferch Elidir.

  • Sources 
    1. [S200000121] Peerage (Collins, Brydges), Brydges, Sir Egerton, 1762-1837, (9 vols. London: [T. Bensley], 1812), FHL 942 D22bc., vol. 7 p. 504, 509.

    2. [S200000754] #205 Baronagium Genealogicum, Or, the Pedigrees of the English Peers, Deduced from the Earliest Times, of Which There Are Any Attested Accountes Including, as Well Collateral as Lineal Descents (1764-1784), Segar, Sir William, (6 volumes. [London]: Engraved and printed for the author, [1764-1784].), Volumes 1-4 FHL microfilm 164,680; volume 5 FHL mi., vol. 6 p. 82.

    3. [S200001257] #248 A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland Enjoying Territorial Possessions or High Official Rank; but Uninvested with Heritable Honors (1834-1838), Burke, John, (4 volumes. London: Published for Henry Colburn, by R. Bentley, 1834-1838), FHL book 942 D2bc., vol. 4 p. 59.

    4. [S200005033] #235 The History and Antiquities of the County of Buckingham (1847), Lipscomb, George, (Four volumes. London: J. & W. Robins, 1847), FHL book Q 942.575 H2Li; FHL microfilms 990,261-99., vol. 1 p. 71.